Griefing

Lumiere
February 8th, 2021 09:31 AM EST

I hear the sever is rampant with griefing; that the main coding person "Ren" just 'deletes' people he doesn't like, character and all, so they can never play their character again, even single player.

AtomicGerbil
February 8th, 2021 07:01 PM EST

Griefer calling people out as griefers. Who woulda thunk?

Everyone knows you tried to use a tile-breaking weapon in order to fuck with Ren; don't give people the half-truth. You failed to grief because there is Tile Protection on, which would be strange for a "sever rampant with griefing".

Your character isn't deleted - he bricked your shipworld because you attempted to grief his worlds, which I would agree is a rather extreme response and thusly he has been punished for that.

Restoring a world file before a grief happened is a lot more annoying since the Server Owner has to deal with that; shipworlds can be fixed client-side, which is far less annoying (but still annoying).

Your character is fine; go into "C:Program Files (x86)SteamsteamappscommonStarboundstorageplayer" via the File Explorer. Move your ".shipworld" files out, or delete them if you're feeling confident.

Make a copy of all your shipworld.bak files elsewhere.

Select ".shipworld.bak1" and rename the end to ".shipworld"; keep doing that until your character's ship works.

If somehow that doesn't work, then delete your shipworlds - no way to save that, but at least your character's fine; Starbound will generate a generic ship for you at your current Ship Tier.

Thank you and have a nice day.

AtomicGerbil
February 8th, 2021 07:28 PM EST

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Starbound\storage\player"

My apologies.

This site doesn't like people using single backslashes as it uses markdown text, I guess.

Lumiere
March 3rd, 2021 12:04 AM EST

Everyone knows Vega has tile protection. I used an item that would normally break blocks on a planet that is known to have tile protection...?

And I get banned, AFTER your golden boy 'Ren' abuses commands to actively damage character files of another user.
I'm sure his slap on the wrist was stinging, but otherwise I'm starting to get a very vivid picture on how things are ran over there.

Nawh, I think I'd rather scrub my FBR version to free it up for other mods.
Good riddance.

PS: Painting me up like a malicious idiot that tried to 'blow up ren's world' or some shit like that completely misses the point. I made noise because I knew where I could. You people made it into a huge song and dance and made me out to be something I wasn't, because it was a convenient sell to get people to agree to throw me out because Ren is one of your $20 patrons, "Is a pretty cool dude, once you get to know him" or whatever your reasoning is to defend that megalomaniac.

AtomicGerbil
March 14th, 2021 06:32 PM EST

He has no administrative or moderative power or 'commands' to 'break' a character file.

What he had was an item which had malicious parameters to brick your ship, which I don't agree with and he got punished for acting on fervent emotion and what he used.
Just like how you had an item with malicious parameters that griefed tons of tiles on Aiyunne's world before TPing over to Vega.

And didn't you try to barter your way out of a ban by becoming a Patreon Supporter?

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

RenVeiethe
March 14th, 2021 06:36 PM EST

onion boy making the big brain plays tbh

Lumiere
March 15th, 2021 01:15 PM EST

I was a supporter for over half a year because I liked the server and its people, but I suppose that's just 'book-keeping' that nobody actually cares about. I cut my subscription once everything was said and done because I wasn't keen on paying for a toxic community that eats their own for the sake of keeping their king on the throne. (I'd never seen anything to provide any other take on that perspective, and have no reason to change this stance after how...inconsistent punishments for behavior were meted out.)

A tiny hole in a fence (The changes I was making to the core were approved by Aiyunne as part of the 'hell well') = ban
bricking a character = slap on the wrist #(irrelevant number)

Case and point. I know you people want to come out of this as 'morally superior', and that's cool, I'll letcha keep living in that fantasy. Just figured I'd leave my side of the story up, in case anyone looking at the server is curious what the community is like and how the server fell 10 ranks in 1 day.

I'm done here.
yw~

Repulse96
March 15th, 2021 05:39 PM EST

Posted by Lumiere:

Case and point. I know you people want to come out of this as 'morally superior', and that's cool, I'll letcha keep living in that fantasy. Just figured I'd leave my side of the story up, in case anyone looking at the server is curious what the community is like and how the server fell 10 ranks in 1 day.



What do you mean "you people"?

AtomicGerbil
March 15th, 2021 05:51 PM EST

I guess you're accusing your friend, Aiyunne, that they "ate you" to keep themselves on high.
But there's literally no motive for that and the damage was seen exactly as you got off Aiyunne's world.
It was well-recorded.

Yes, you were a supporter. Flaunting and being pretentious about it did you no favours in getting you out a ban though.

You leaving did not cause the server to drop in rank. We've had plenty like you that have come and gone, and our rank remains as indecisive and sporadic as usual.

Again, don't give people the half-truth.
Thanks.

Convenience101
March 15th, 2021 06:23 PM EST

Posted by Lumiere:
I hear the sever is rampant with griefing; that the main coding person "Ren" just 'deletes' people he doesn't like, character and all, so they can never play their character again, even single player.
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And I get banned, AFTER your golden boy 'Ren' abuses commands to actively damage character files of another user.


Citation needed. The most recent attempted griefing I recall occurring was on the POI Vega during Feb the 2nd, which... weren't you the one that conducted that?

As Atomic has already stated, he has no administrative or moderating powers to conduct such a thing. He got punished appropriately for using an item to brick your shipworld - Atomic has already provided instructions to revert such a thing at the start of this thread.

Overlord9531
March 15th, 2021 06:38 PM EST

Hey Lumiere. I'm the 38th, we had a long chat while you were drunk and crying in the FBR discord that you don't want to be the bad guy. I'm not going to defend the "Golden Boy" Instead I'd like to describe my experience with you.

I saw you in the Voice channel on discord with a mutual friend (we'll call them Jim). I joined in to see what was going on and things were relatively calm, we discussed Xcom strategies and generally had a good time. After some time you became erratic shouting and ranting about another member of the community (We'll call them Crow), I'll admit I was more focused on the game I was playing but I did hear a particular set of words "People like Ren are the reason XYZ." This caused me and a friend of mine to chuckle which you responded to by muting the two of us.

After muting us my friend and I continued to listen on as you continued to scream down Jim who was trying to explain that he understood your position but couldn't agree that Crow was an awful person based on your past experience, a stance you couldn't stand for. You were so sure that Crow was an awful person and EVERYONE needed to know.

Before long more of my friends joined the voice chat and upon realizing that they were friends with me you muted them to continue screaming at Jim until you finally left. I'll own up to my crimes, I made fun of you in chat. I was talking MAD SHIT about you and laughing all the while. It was JIM who stood up for you and asked us not to hold it against you, Jim told us that you were having a bad time and not to let this bad first impression taint our view of you. Meanwhile, my friends and I got in touch with Crow to tell them some of the things you were saying.

For no discernable reason after having seen some of the mean things we had to say, you choose to come back to the voice channel and stream STALKER. (we made fun of you for the record) Crow joined the chat and immediately wasted no time calling you out on the things you had been saying behind their back. Instead of standing your ground as you did with the person who went out of their way to stand up for you, you chose to go quiet and respectfully tell Crow that you were really sad and that your life was very hard. You explained that you had recently lost a pet and were very down about it and that you had been drinking a lot. Crow explained that they too had family members who had died recently, you retorted by trying to shift the focus away from the fact that Crow had lost actual family and you had lost a pet and instead focus on how sad it was that people die.

You finally apologized to Crow and owned up that you were in a bad place, you began to unmute people bit by bit and I can't speak for everyone but I will say that I personally was hopeful that we could move past the incident. Crow forgave you reluctantly and we started just talking like reasonable adults. You started (Or continued I'm not really sure) to drink, and before long burst into tears crying to us including Crow about how much a previous server you were on meant to you and how your being banned had ruined your life. Crow and I tried our best to comfort you, we tried to help you move on, we were very polite in my opinion, we spoke softly and calmly with you and in a very respectful manner.

Despite how much we tried to be nice to you, for some unknown reason. For the actual love of mother mary herself, you began to harass us while we played a game together. You continued to make unwarranted comments after having been asked politely to stop, you continued to call us out of our name after we asked you to stop. When I finally asked if you could "Shut the fuck up" You became angered and somehow it's because I associate with the golden bull Ren.

TL;DR: You were Lumiere, rude to many members of the FBR community. You displayed and continue to display a tendency to play the victim instead of owning up to your mistakes. I'm not a member of administration but your honestly not the kind of person I'd like to associate with within the community. Insulting me is fair, talking poorly about my friends is another but I can't in good faith watch you continually insult and defame this community because of a situation that was entirely your fault

You were given multiple opportunities to walk away, multiple chances to let things go, and even a second chance by me personally. But the fact that Ren doesn't respect you was something you couldn't live with. Even now every post is centered around how awful Ren is and how it's HIS fault but I hope that based on my statements you can see better why the admins may have chosen to remove you from the community based on your behavior.

AtomicGerbil
March 15th, 2021 07:37 PM EST

Posted by Convenience101:
Atomic has already provided instructions to revert such a thing at the start of this thread.

If Lumi was here to make these comments and still blatantly lie about the status of the character, Lumi wants it to be kept "broken", otherwise they have no basis.

I'll make my first assumption of this thread; Lumi won't fix it, and Lumi will still say it is broken / 'deleted'.
This is on the basis of me probably being, in Lumi's eyes, part of "you people" probably referring us as simps for Ren or some shit; my advice and support is moot.

lukebig222
March 16th, 2021 03:45 AM EST

You don't need your character's exact shipworld. You can rename a existing shipworld to your character's id number and it gives you that ship. Useful for getting another race's ship. Did it for Jasu to get a novakid ship.

Repulse96
March 21st, 2021 06:52 PM EST

Posted by lukebig222:
You don't need your character's exact shipworld. You can rename a existing shipworld to your character's id number and it gives you that ship. Useful for getting another race's ship. Did it for Jasu to get a novakid ship.

I don't think this dude's gonna listen, man. He thinks we're all bad people.